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Fear The Quake
October 22nd 2005, 21:50 CEST by Dumdeedum

Quake 4 and F-dot-E-dot-A-dot-R-dot are out on the 18th (depending on where you live) so I guess we should probably discuss them or, failing that, rip them apart for whatever failings they may have.

Quake 4
Drink every time...
- You push a button/flip a switch/activate any trigger.
- You think "if only this was co-op".
- You encounter detailed scenery that is liberally covered in clipping brushes.
- You go "oooh, that's pretty".
- (Drink again if you then think it's a nice technology demo)
- You see a reference to a previous Id game.
- You notice an enemy/buddy wearing a huge codpiece.
- Some story is crowbarred in.
- You use the GUI or an in-game terminal or anything else Caryn might have done.

F-dot-E-dot-A-dot-R-dot
Drink every time...
- You overhear enemy conversations and then kill them.
- (Drink twice if the enemies make a joke)
- You do something you didn't mean to because of Lithtech-style control.
- There's a humorous reference on a magazine cover or TV or similar.
- Little girls appear in any form, or ghostly figures, or disembodied laughter.
- Or blood, lots of blood.
- Anyone actually says "First Encounter Assault Recon" (drink and cheer).
- You're reminded of Jason Hall's enormous muscles.
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#57 by DEATH KILLER INTERNATIONAL (INTERGALACTIC DIVISION
2005-10-24 17:15:39
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replace "video cards" with "husbands" and thats what ur wife will be saying in 5 years

"The people against Bush are REALLY against Bush." - G-Man on Creole Ned
#58 by Gunp01nt
2005-10-24 17:20:16
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Aww, don't be bitter, DKI. Someday you're going to find the right woman* and you're going to be married happily ever after.

(*ladyboy)

I've held off telling you guys, but, I'm secretly a Nigerian prince in exile.  And I've got gobs of money back home that I can't access.  Help a brother out?
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#59 by DEATH KILLER INTERNATIONAL (INTERGALACTIC DIVISION
2005-10-24 17:23:55
deathkillerint@hotmail.com
ladyboys are pretty sweet but unless they legalize the operation for 9 year olds i dont think i'll be hookin up with one anytime soon

"The people against Bush are REALLY against Bush." - G-Man on Creole Ned
#60 by Mister Nutty
2005-10-24 20:09:07

Last time I had to go through three video cards before I found something that wasn't a total piece of shit.


Huh?  Now that Nvidia and ATI own the entire industry between them, videocard choices have never been easier.   Pick any well known manufacturer that makes a card based on a recent Nvidia or ATI chipset and steer clear of Nvidia MX cards and you'll get a good card.

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#61 by hangedmanAG
2005-10-24 20:18:15
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Huh?  Now that Nvidia and ATI own the entire industry between them, videocard choices have never been easier.

Guh?  I guess you're too young to remember the days when 3dfx ruled the industry.  All you needed was a Voodoo 2 in your computer and you were gold.

*sigh*  good times...

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#62 by Eric T. Cheng
2005-10-24 20:29:14
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Guh?  I guess you're too young to remember the days when 3dfx ruled the industry.  All you needed was a Voodoo 2 in your computer and you were gold.


If you liked games that supported GLide and 24-bit colours only...

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#63 by None-1a
2005-10-24 20:33:33
nice he's not up-to-date enough on things to know nvidia doesn't make MX cards anymore, and that you really have to just steer clear of both ATI and Nvidia low-mid range cards usualy anyway. Unless of course said card is really last generations high end card or this is one of the product cycles where they turn out decent mid range stuff.
#64 by Sgt Hulka
2005-10-24 20:37:08
Voodoo 2


I can remember the day when Monster3D cards ruled the world.

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#65 by anaqer
2005-10-24 20:40:07
If you liked games that supported GLide and 16-bit colours only...

FIXED

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#66 by Jibble
2005-10-24 20:42:24
I'm just saying I'd bother with it if I didn't have to go read reviews and look at spec sheets so I can find out whether Whizbang's 6600GT card has a better profile and is more stable than Wheedle's model with the liquid nitrogen cooling pipes.

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#67 by Greg
2005-10-24 20:45:51
Amazingly, Eric, I don't think most normal sane people were underwhelmed with the Voodoo 1 and 2, so they weren't crying in their bedrooms pining for more color depth. It was the best at the time, and they lapped it up.

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#68 by Anonymous
2005-10-24 20:50:20
I'm just saying I'd bother with it if I didn't have to go read reviews and look at spec sheets so I can find out whether Whizbang's 6600GT card has a better profile and is more stable than Wheedle's model with the liquid nitrogen cooling pipes.

You must be improvising. What is there to compare between GF6600GT cards? Choices of video-out options? A GT is a GT, nothing to compare there. 128bit bus, 500 core, 450-550 memory (who cares), 128/256 mb ddr3 vram. Choose your favorite PCB color if you wish.

I'd go for a 256mb board if the price is right.

#69 by Jibble
2005-10-24 20:59:21
The term "video card roundup" comes to mind.

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#70 by Anonymous
2005-10-24 21:06:50
Yes, and the differences lie in... cooling and overclockability. Isn't overclocking stupid and pointless?

#71 by Jibble
2005-10-24 21:09:50
Yes, but cooling is pretty important to me. This is all meaningless anyway since I don't play PC games anymore.

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#72 by Ergo
2005-10-24 21:13:35
You don't? You're missing out.

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#73 by Mister Nutty
2005-10-24 21:32:45

Guh?  I guess you're too young to remember the days when 3dfx ruled the industry.


Wrong, I'm old enough to remember the days when you had to not only worry about the chipset revision you were going to get, but you had to worry about whether the type of videocard you were buying was even going to fit in your motherboard because there wasn't a fully established de facto standard card slot for videocards, and I'm taking about continuous competing standards, not simply a generational switch like the current AGP/PCI-x one.  (Actually, I'm even older than that, I'm old enough to remember when you bought a computer that was built into a keyboard enclosure and had a non-upgradable video-chip... C64 4 lyfe, yo, but I digress).  

And that aside, in the Voodoo 2 days you had exactly the same problems (which aren't major problems, IMO) as Jibble is describing since in the Voodoo 2 days, 3dfx's business model was just like Nvidia's and ATI's today and you still had to figure out which card manufacturer and options to go with -- I had two SLIed Diamond Monster Graphics cards.

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#74 by gaggle
2005-10-24 21:42:00
I also had Voodoo 2 SLI. Envy of everbody at LAN parties was I, awyeh.

"O Av vem salvar"
#75 by anaqer
2005-10-24 21:49:46
when you had to not only worry about the chipset revision you were going to get,

Not to be an asshole but out of pure curiousity - which particular case are we talking about here?

"There's no place like home."
#76 by Eric T. Cheng
2005-10-24 22:06:30
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Amazingly, Eric, I don't think most normal sane people were underwhelmed with the Voodoo 1 and 2, so they weren't crying in their bedrooms pining for more color depth. It was the best at the time, and they lapped it up.


Oh I know. I had spent $500 Cdn each on the Voodoo 1 and 2 cards. For some reason Quake running under OpenGL looks more vivid on the Voodoo 1 (as far as my memory goes) than contemporary FPSes on today's high-end video cards. I guess it was the stark comparision between the software acceleration and hardward acceleration.

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#77 by Ergo
2005-10-24 22:13:45
I vividly remeber the day I bought my Monster 3D card, installed it and fired up Tomb Raider. Awesome.

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#78 by Chunkstyle
2005-10-24 22:14:04
(Actually, I'm even older than that, I'm old enough to remember when you bought a computer that was built into a keyboard enclosure and had a non-upgradable video-chip... C64 4 lyfe, yo, but I digress).

Word to your nutter.

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#79 by gaggle
2005-10-24 22:28:57
I had a Matrox Mystique (I.. think it was called) back in my pre-Voodoo days. I was playing a Star Wars Jedi Knight's game, and, the ignoramus that I am was, I was playing it with crummy resolution (probably 320x240) and displaysettings. A friend visited and went "hey, you know, I think I heard something about this thing called hardware acceleration, wanna give it a shot?".

He fiddled with some options for a few seconds and the game came back running in super ber highres (probably 800x600) looking shit fuckingly absolutely friggin' stunning. It was by far the wildest thing I had ever seen at the time, I was completly stunned at the difference.


It's one of the few vivid memories I have of my young days. I think my brains saves odd useless memories on purpose just to annoy me.

"O Av vem salvar"
#80 by gaggle
2005-10-24 22:31:19
Wait.. brains? I plurraled that word? But.. why? W.. a.. how could I possibly make such a typo..

"O Av vem salvar"
#81 by Dumdeedum
2005-10-24 23:01:15
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Jibble, if you do want to get a 6600GT then I suggest this one, it's the one I want to get although I sadly may end up settling on this one because then I can order everything from one supplier and reduce shipping charges/general annoyances.

#82 by Jibble
2005-10-24 23:06:26
Again, pointless, don't play PC games, doesn't matter.

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#83 by Dumdeedum
2005-10-24 23:16:30
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You woman.

#84 by gaggle
2005-10-24 23:18:18
So I guess "I'm just saying I'd bother with it if I didn't have to go read reviews" was sort of theoretical whining. A whine for the sake of whining, if you will. Here Dum comes and acts all helpful and you just shoot him down without even as much as a thank you!

Which is good. He needs a good shooting-down every now and again, cocky limey/canadian/scottish/whatever bastard.

"O Av vem salvar"
#85 by Shadarr
2005-10-24 23:19:59
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PC gaming is dead, but I plan on some sweet, sweet necrophelia with Civ IV this Wednesday.

Without me, Internet would never have had sex with the DS. -m0nty
#86 by Anonymous
2005-10-24 23:36:34
I had an integrated ATi Rage Pro with 4mb of vram soldered onto the motherboard, quite a freaky QDI Legend III(with TV out!) but I was totally PC illiterate back then. It ran Tomb Raider in full D3D but I didn't know the difference so I was thinking to myself how good it must look with those expensive 3Dfx cards. It even ran Quake games in OpenGL but with a special driver from ATi (Half-Life in its full beauty, plus flashing ladders).

#87 by jjohnsen
2005-10-25 00:19:08
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ATI rocks my socks, so I suggest you go with one of those.  Can't really give you a good reason.

Actually, the liberalism of the media - as a general thing - IS a major fallacy. What the media is, is a whore.  -LP
#88 by Squeaky
2005-10-25 00:34:14
ATI is a Canadian company. That's good enough for me!

Now I'm a half-million dollars in the hole, and I'm sucking dicks in the bathroom at the Olive Garden. Thanks a lot, Nintendo!
#89 by LesJarvis
2005-10-25 00:38:11
For the record this is the actual card I bought.  $134.  I'm really, really happy with it.  But then, I was upgrading from a geforce 3 ti500, so ymmv.

"The internet has gone all fiddle faddle foo."
-lwf
#90 by LPMiller
2005-10-25 01:05:56
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I had a rendition video card, which made Freespace gorgous, but sucked for most other things. Then I had a PVR card, which made unreal gorgous, except it screwed up reflective surfaces so badly as every shiny floor became a mirror. I finally got a voodoo 1 card on clearence when Computer City went belly up, only so I could play Independence war, which was very pretty but I sucked at it. After all that farting around, I got a TNT card and enjoyed the start of an era when things just worked.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#91 by Squeaky
2005-10-25 01:10:35
My first 3d card.

It's still sitting on my desk, too.

Now I'm a half-million dollars in the hole, and I'm sucking dicks in the bathroom at the Olive Garden. Thanks a lot, Nintendo!
#92 by LesJarvis
2005-10-25 01:19:13
I got a computer in like '93 or '94 that included hardware acceleration.  It came with Virtua Fighter, and it was amazing, looked just like the arcade.  Unfortunately nothing else worked with it.  A few years later, like Squeaky, I bought a Canopus Pure3d, which was awesome, but made me suck at Quakeworld for some reason.  After that I went TnT, and every subsequent card I've bought has been Nvidia based.

"The internet has gone all fiddle faddle foo."
-lwf
#93 by Shadarr
2005-10-25 01:44:50
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The only time I've actually upgraded a video card I bought a Creative Voodoo Banshee.  That thing rocked for Total Annihilation.

Without me, Internet would never have had sex with the DS. -m0nty
#94 by Charles
2005-10-25 02:57:53
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Charles, my favorite not-expensive red wine: Marque de Caceras Rioja Reserva from Spain.  Any vintage is ok, the 95 is best, less than $20.


So you've told me before, but I've never been able to find it here.

Videogames!  Why waste good technology on science and medicine?
#95 by Squeaky
2005-10-25 07:47:37
Jarvis: I had a pure3dII, a voodoo2 card with 12 megs of ram. The salesman tried talking me out of it saying something like "who will ever need 12 megs of ram on a videocard?" Not surprising to find that shop has gone out of business.

Now I'm a half-million dollars in the hole, and I'm sucking dicks in the bathroom at the Olive Garden. Thanks a lot, Nintendo!
#96 by anaqer
2005-10-25 08:18:23
I didn't get my very own 3D card until the glorious Savage4, up to which point I had been tagging along with a P133 and a Trio64V+.

"There's no place like home."
#97 by Anonymous
2005-10-25 14:35:01
#96
Hold your pity, I upgraded from a 386DX with an OAK 512KB board. It had 8MB of RAM, so that I was able to run Win95 on it (but not much else).

#98 by Anonymous
2005-10-25 14:40:31
The reviewer sums it up succinctly.

#99 by Gunp01nt
2005-10-25 15:01:52
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I think FEAR is pretty scary here and there. I did get a little bored with it, as the level design is seriously out of date and features a lot of square rooms padded with crates, pipes and large computers.
But so far there've been two instances where I saw something really fast zooming away as soon as I entered an area, and it's really been freaking me out.

I've held off telling you guys, but, I'm secretly a Nigerian prince in exile.  And I've got gobs of money back home that I can't access.  Help a brother out?
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#100 by Mister Nutty
2005-10-25 19:02:23
Quake 4 > FEAR

Quake 4 is the PC GOTY, but is beat in the overall GOTY competition by the mighty Resident Evil 4.

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#101 by Ergo
2005-10-25 19:03:21
You truly have lost your mind.

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#102 by Anonymous
2005-10-25 19:07:13
Quake 4 > FEAR

I agree. I mean, Alma? WTF?

#103 by Mister Nutty
2005-10-25 19:17:24
If my current self built a time machine and went back in time and told my past self that Resident Evil 4 was GOTY, my past self would have thought my future self had lost its mind...  I'm a long-time hardcore Resident Evil disliker, but Resident Evil 4 IS GOTY.

EOD!

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#104 by Shadarr
2005-10-25 19:19:11
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Quake IV isn't even game of the month.

Without me, Internet would never have had sex with the DS. -m0nty
#105 by Mister Nutty
2005-10-25 19:20:33
If you include console games, that is true, yet it is still the PC GOTY.

YHBT. YHL. HAND
#106 by Ergo
2005-10-25 19:28:44
Yep. Clinically insane.

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